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Autopilot + COM freq. over BT to RS232


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Hi all, there has been a lot of discussions about this, but never resulted in any way.
Is it possible, somehow, to get out from SkyDemon over bluetooth to RS232 converter some data?
From my current Aera 760 i have over serial port connected autopilot and Trig radio so Aera can feed AP with planned track and when i click on airfields com freq it sets stand by freq. But, it is Garmin and their weird navigation point stupid names, airfields without names and so on...

This will be nice to have on SkyDemon, are there some possibilities?
Vitek

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Final glide - 12/21/2024 9:11:11 AM
Well hats off to the skydemon team!!!I made a demo panel with three units running off one BT unit A trig radio, AV-30 and fuel flow computer They all worked perfectly with the radio and autopilot function ticked together The only issue was the trig had old software so didn’t work until this was updated.What a brilliant job by Tim and the team SD just keeps getting better and better !!!Many thanks James

Hi James,
what functions are controlled in the AV-30 and fuel flow computer by SD?

Regards
Michael

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Hi the SD outputs speed and track so all the nav info on AV-30 is available and on the FF computer it gets time and speed and distance so is perfect
I have a Bendix autopilot being fitted this winter and it will work that as well I am sure
What a brilliant system !
I did have a garmin handheld on the panel to feed the Av and FF but that is now on the shelf
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Final glide - 12/21/2024 9:29:34 AM
Hi the SD outputs speed and track so all the nav info on AV-30 is available and on the FF computer it gets time and speed and distance so is perfect I have a Bendix autopilot being fitted this winter and it will work that as well I am sure What a brilliant system !I did have a garmin handheld on the panel to feed the Av and FF but that is now on the shelf

That sounds interesting.
Do you have any information on wiring and configuring the AV-30 to input groundspeed, track and distance? 
Do you need an AV-Link or AV-HSI for these functions?
What FF computer is it? 
Pictures would be fine.

Questions about questions...   Smile

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So for the AV-30 no avlink needed just the data wire
I have four data wires running off one BT unit !!
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Final glide - 12/21/2024 5:55:02 PM
So for the AV-30 no avlink needed just the data wireI have four data wires running off one BT unit !!

Hello Final glide, thank you very much for your post about the AV-30. I have also AV-30 in my plane and I already connected my KRT2 with SD. So it´s great, that you managed to bring AV-30 and SD together. I would like to follow you. It would be great if you could share a bit more details. My questions are: 
- is it Pin2 at AV-30 which is used for Data-in?
- what is the configuration an SD-side. Does it need "Autopilot" or "NMEA" ?
- any configuration on AV-30 side to be changed? e.g. baud rate? is it 9600?
Thanks a lot for your support  Ulli

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Hi ulli
It is super simple pins 1,2,and 9 for the av-30
And that’s it select autopilot and all on the SD it does 9600 bad automatically
You can test by using the simulator function on SD
Brilliant system !!!!!
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Final glide - 12/26/2024 7:00:01 PM
Hi ulli It is super simple pins 1,2,and 9 for the av-30 And that’s it select autopilot and all on the SD it does 9600 bad automatically You can test by using the simulator function on SDBrilliant system !!!!!

Thanks a lot... I will check it out. Great hint!!!

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Final glide - 12/26/2024 7:00:01 PM
Hi ulli It is super simple pins 1,2,and 9 for the av-30 And that’s it select autopilot and all on the SD it does 9600 bad automatically You can test by using the simulator function on SDBrilliant system !!!!!

Hi Final Glide,
we have an installation with one iPad (running SD), one AV-30 and one KRT2. We just bought a BT dongle to send frequencies to the KRT2. Did you manage to use the same dongle to simultaneously transfer Nav data from SD to the AV-30?
That would be really amazing. Or do you need a second BT Adapter for the AV30???
Thank you in advance,
Stephan

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The software on the standalone version of my BT module supports routing certain message formats to each serial port, so in theory you could connect a Funke radio and an AV30 to just the one BT module. I’ve not got any equipment to test this though (my aircraft has a G3X and one Trig radio) so I can’t sell it without a full shakedown and test.
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Linoair - 4/19/2025 8:53:46 AM
Final glide - 12/26/2024 7:00:01 PM
Hi ulli It is super simple pins 1,2,and 9 for the av-30 And that’s it select autopilot and all on the SD it does 9600 bad automatically You can test by using the simulator function on SDBrilliant system !!!!!

Hi Final Glide,
we have an installation with one iPad (running SD), one AV-30 and one KRT2. We just bought a BT dongle to send frequencies to the KRT2. Did you manage to use the same dongle to simultaneously transfer Nav data from SD to the AV-30?
That would be really amazing. Or do you need a second BT Adapter for the AV30???
Thank you in advance,
Stephan

The data streams must be isolated. The data from the autopilot must not reach the KRT2, otherwise the radio will misinterpret it and no longer function correctly.
So either 2 separate adapters, or separate the data streams using a microcontroller and output them to 2 different ports. I think the solution with 2 BLE adapters is simpler, cleaner and cheaper.

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Final glide - 12/26/2024 7:00:01 PM
Hi ulli It is super simple pins 1,2,and 9 for the av-30 And that’s it select autopilot and all on the SD it does 9600 bad automatically You can test by using the simulator function on SDBrilliant system !!!!!

Hi Final Glide,
we have an installation with one iPad (running SD), one AV-30 and one KRT2. We just bought a BT dongle to send frequencies to the KRT2. Did you manage to use the same dongle to simultaneously transfer Nav data from SD to the AV-30?
That would be really amazing. Or do you need a second BT Adapter for the AV30???
Thank you in advance,
Stephan

The data streams must be isolated. The data from the autopilot must not reach the KRT2, otherwise the radio will misinterpret it and no longer function correctly.
So either 2 separate adapters, or separate the data streams using a microcontroller and output them to 2 different ports. I think the solution with 2 BLE adapters is simpler, cleaner and cheaper.

Dear Final Glide and dear Michael,
thank you for your quick response.

@Michael: The experience with the KRT 2 SD-Link (quality, installation effort, documentation and also pricing) was so great, that I would definitely also buy your AV-30 Adapter as soon as it is available. Do you think it might be possible to use it on top of the AV-Link Wifi-Adapter, which receives our GDL90 Traffic Data Stream? I think AV Link uses a different Pin to transfer the traffic data to the AV-30!?
I did not expect, the all this might be available :-)
Happy Easter,
Stephan

Edited 4/20/2025 6:08:42 PM by Linoair
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Linoair - 4/20/2025 3:28:02 PM

@Michael: The experience with the KRT 2 SD-Link (quality, installation effort, documentation and also pricing) was so great, that I would definitely also buy your AV-30 Adapter as soon as it is available. Do you think it might be possible to use it on top of the AV-Link Wifi-Adapter, which receives our GDL90 Traffic Data Stream? I think AV Link uses a different Pin to transfer the traffic data to the AV-30!?
I did not expect, the all this might be available :-)
Happy Easter,
Stephan

Stephan,
the wait is over. The SD-Link AV-30 adapter is now available. This will turn your uAvionix AV-30 into an HSI displaying the planned SkyDemon legs. The existing AV-Link for the traffic display will continue to function ;-)

It's a simple "plug and play adapter", just plug it in and enjoy the new features.


Here is more information:


Cheers!
Michael

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Final glide - 12/21/2024 5:55:02 PM
So for the AV-30 no avlink needed just the data wireI have four data wires running off one BT unit !!

Hi Final Glide. My AV30 is now also receiving the AP-Dataset. Thanks a lot for your hints.
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